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Post by Alison the Aged Adolescent on Oct 6, 2008 11:14:05 GMT -5
Could any German speakers on the forum help me with this one? I think the writer is being quite ironic - not actually negative about the concert, but feeling that the lines were blurred between the old Queen and the new, kind of thing. However, on the face of it, some of the vocabulary is quite negative and if I have read the writer's intentions correctly, quite hard to render in English: www.haz.de/newsroom/kultur/dezentral/kultur/art2610,700481 For example, with the expression 'Was soll's?' he just seems surprised to see Freddie there. I think he's trying to say that the guys can't run a normal rock show without reference to the past and all it entailed. Is that it? Or am I completely off-track?
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Post by Elenir on Oct 6, 2008 12:24:23 GMT -5
I think the "was soll's" was more meant like "who cares?" Hard to judge really. I guess he wants to say that the concert was good, but the name Queen didn't fit because the "pathos" wasn't there enough and the old Queen songs are still played good but not really "the real thing" and that they should have played more form their new album and maybe more "solo" stuff like Roger doing "I'm in Love With My Car" or Brians guitar solo, which work very well without Freddie. But I'm not sure really, he's not very clear.
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Post by Alison the Aged Adolescent on Oct 6, 2008 12:42:09 GMT -5
Yes, I get the impression that it's a vague critique, not really committing himself one way or the other, shrouded in obscurity. But I think you're right, he was more positive about those solo bits, the 'proper rock show' idea etc. and that the group won't ever shake off the 'Queen' thing.
To be honest, I have some sympathy with his view in one respect: I started to find the video screen irritating after a while. If I wanted to watch the Radio Ga Ga video, I wouldn't go to a Q + PR concert to do it - I could do it at home! Does the music NEED all this stuff, I wonder? Hasn't PR made the songs his own to such a degree now? The tribute to Freddie surely lies there alone - they don't need to placate people with original videos. Maybe the writer of that article was confused about it all, and that's what he was trying to get across.
Brian launched a broadside on the soapbox back in May about video screens advertising stuff on the roadside. I think the screen could encroach on the music in the same way as it encroaches on people's lives there.
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Post by Elenir on Oct 7, 2008 15:15:37 GMT -5
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Post by Tina on Oct 8, 2008 1:53:33 GMT -5
Yes, I get the impression that it's a vague critique, not really committing himself one way or the other, shrouded in obscurity. But I think you're right, he was more positive about those solo bits, the 'proper rock show' idea etc. and that the group won't ever shake off the 'Queen' thing. Interesting, I've never read any really bad review about the German concerts. Sure, everyone points out the lack of Freddie, but praises Roger and Brian (and often Paul) at the same time. I doubt it will ever get any different. I can live with that, because I know how much the boys and their music mean to me. The video thingy is very much "in style" at the moment. No bigger act won't go without that nowadays. Same goes for the light show btw. I wouldn't need it either, but I appreciate that the boys want to be "up to date" regarding all this. Brian launched a broadside on the soapbox back in May about video screens advertising stuff on the roadside. I think the screen could encroach on the music in the same way as it encroaches on people's lives there. [/quote]
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Post by Alison the Aged Adolescent on Oct 8, 2008 5:46:00 GMT -5
Interesting, I've never read any really bad review about the German concerts. Well, it depends on the overall tone. I've seen a couple that definitely lean much more in a negative direction. You're scarcely going to get anything that's 100% positive. But I agree with you to the extent that there are quite a few quotes I can extract from press reviews for translation and I shall be doing this over the next few days. The video thingy is very much "in style" at the moment. No bigger act won't go without that nowadays. Same goes for the light show btw. I wouldn't need it either, but I appreciate that the boys want to be "up to date" regarding all this. Thanks for enlightening me. I don't go to 'big' concerts otherwise, so I wouldn't know. Guess I'm a bit old-fashioned but suppose I can just keep my eyes closed ;D except if there's a danger of missing an eyeful of Roger, of course..
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Post by Alison the Aged Adolescent on Oct 8, 2008 5:52:44 GMT -5
I saw this one but felt it was hastily-written and contained little of value, so didn't bother with it. But thanks anyway, Elenir! The stuff I've done so far can be viewed on my dedicated Q + PR page: www.bohemia-place.net/queenpr.htmJen (BM.com) also mentioned that her mailbox is full of positive feedback. So I think we should remember that these articles are only one person's opinion anyway, and those who write them are not necessarily the 'best-qualified' to do so. So I hope to include some translations of fan reviews too - I've been spying on the German FC forum among other places - so, if anyone would like to PM me anything about a concert they've attended so far, written either in German or English, I'd be happy to include it! ;D
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Post by Tina on Oct 8, 2008 6:42:19 GMT -5
Thanks for enlightening me. I don't go to 'big' concerts otherwise, so I wouldn't know. Guess I'm a bit old-fashioned but suppose I can just keep my eyes closed ;D except if there's a danger of missing an eyeful of Roger, of course.. Which would be the biggest shame of all! Roger's just too delicious on this tour to miss. ;D I think the big screen is not bad for those who are having seats in the back. What I really hate are shows where you can only see the main act plus dancers and NO band. You know like Madonna & Co.
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Post by Alison the Aged Adolescent on Oct 8, 2008 9:05:57 GMT -5
Which would be the biggest shame of all! Roger's just too delicious on this tour to miss. I know, I was in Berlin! I think the big screen is not bad for those who are having seats in the back. What I really hate are shows where you can only see the main act plus dancers and NO band. You know like Madonna & Co. The screen being there for the stage action is another matter. There were occasions when it was otherwise used effectively as well. It's just that all that video stuff got a bit much after a while. Well, I don't know about Madonna & Co. and have no desire to find out but never mind!
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Post by Elenir on Oct 8, 2008 15:04:35 GMT -5
I saw this one but felt it was hastily-written and contained little of value, so didn't bother with it. Yeah. It sounds a lot like a "must do". Jen (BM.com) also mentioned that her mailbox is full of positive feedback. That's true. I read only postive things from fans actually attending the concerts. so, if anyone would like to PM me anything about a concert they've attended so far, written either in German or English, I'd be happy to include it! ;D Well, I did write a blog. It's not so much high quality, I'm afraid... There's a link in the Mannheim thread.
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Post by lilyofthevalley on Oct 9, 2008 9:41:39 GMT -5
Actually, there was a Dutch review of the Rotterdam concert the other day (rtl boulevard) and it was 99% positive! The only remark he had, was the lack of variety in the setlist, and I have to agree on that one...
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Post by Alison the Aged Adolescent on Oct 10, 2008 13:01:53 GMT -5
Well, I did write a blog. It's not so much high quality, I'm afraid... There's a link in the Mannheim thread. Thanks, Elenir - I thought it was really interesting, in fact - as it wasn't stuff I translated, I placed a link to it just under my album review on my tour page: www.bohemia-place.net/queenpr.htm ;D
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Post by Elenir on Oct 16, 2008 16:34:42 GMT -5
Wow, cool someone links to me! Thanks. ;D
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Post by Alison the Aged Adolescent on Oct 21, 2008 13:19:23 GMT -5
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