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Post by Tina on Jul 10, 2005 8:25:40 GMT -5
:)Thanx again folks!!I love you!! :-*I really dunno why people keep on fighting for their religions....Everybody's free to believe in which religion he wants,without all of these murders and tragedies...It seems they don't wanna understand that God wants people living with love and peace  We, as we are located in the western world, cannot understand the drive behind those poeple. They die for their religion and they do it gladly. Show me just one catholic or christ in general who would go and sacrifice himself for religious reasons... They seem to be very radical and determined in everything they do. |
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Post by Madwoman on Jul 10, 2005 13:27:33 GMT -5
I am not sure that sending them back (teh terrorists) would do any good. It would just give them the chance to train more and be better trained. As far as I am concerned they have been brainwashed and nothing and no-one will ever be able to stop them, I am afraid to say, which makes this a very unsafe world to live in. Of course a certain mr Bush has a lot to do with it ( think of the politics )
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Post by Ellie79 the threads'girl on Jul 10, 2005 14:19:25 GMT -5
I am not sure that sending them back (teh terrorists) would do any good. It would just give them the chance to train more and be better trained. As far as I am concerned they have been brainwashed and nothing and no-one will ever be able to stop them, I am afraid to say, which makes this a very unsafe world to live in. Of course a certain mr Bush has a lot to do with it ( think of the politics ) That is also true!! :-/Mr Bush did and he's doing his worse to put people in trouble :-/Keep on fighting won't ever be the right solution and there will be no way to live in peace in this World  |
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Post by Tina on Jul 10, 2005 14:26:35 GMT -5
I am not sure that sending them back (teh terrorists) would do any good. It would just give them the chance to train more and be better trained. As far as I am concerned they have been brainwashed and nothing and no-one will ever be able to stop them, I am afraid to say, which makes this a very unsafe world to live in. Of course a certain mr Bush has a lot to do with it ( think of the politics ) That is also true!! :-/Mr Bush did and he's doing his worse to put people in trouble :-/Keep on fighting won't ever be the right solution and there will be no way to live in peace in this World There actually IS NO way of peace for this world. As long as the human race will be continued, there will always be fights and wars. That's within the human nature I guess. We can be happy that we don't live in countries, involved in civil wars and worse. |
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Post by Jmochampion on Jul 10, 2005 15:39:39 GMT -5
Personally we cannot just lock these people up, they need to be treated in the way they treat us  |
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Post by Tina on Jul 10, 2005 15:42:22 GMT -5
Personally we cannot just lock these people up, they need to be treated in the way they treat us Of course. But then the fighting will never stop I think. |
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Post by Jmochampion on Jul 10, 2005 15:56:31 GMT -5
Personally we cannot just lock these people up, they need to be treated in the way they treat us Of course. But then the fighting will never stop I think. Of course it won't!! Unfortunately some people in this world lives on voilence in whatever form, that is something we have to live with! |
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Post by Madwoman on Jul 10, 2005 16:59:32 GMT -5
I cannot believe you just wrote that Jen. Violence breeds violence. I am totally with Brian on this one, go the Nelson Mandela way... oh sorry I forgot... you need compassion, humility and intelligence for that... not sth Mr Bush possesses. GRRrrrr...
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Post by Jmochampion on Jul 11, 2005 15:02:11 GMT -5
I cannot believe you just wrote that Jen. Violence breeds violence. I am totally with Brian on this one, go the Nelson Mandela way... oh sorry I forgot... you need compassion, humility and intelligence for that... not sth Mr Bush possesses. GRRrrrr... I'm sorry but I can't see why you can't believe what I wrote?? What is the Nelson Mandela way?? As if anyone is ever gonna listen to that though, I don't want to say it but religion does play a big part I think!! Well that and a certain amount of brain-washing!! |
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Post by Madwoman on Jul 12, 2005 4:47:03 GMT -5
What I mean is that retaliation is the wrong way of solving the problem. What needs to happen is for someone somwhere to take the wind out of the terrorists' sail, they can only succeed if we let them. Fighting back only antagonises them further and it will enable them to recruit more people. By reacting in a non-violent way you have the chance of beating them. Reaction and counter -reaction, or cause and effect, look at what happened in Northern Ireland. ( the history of it) the papers are also full of examples of how not to respond, try the Independent on Monday for example
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Post by jazz "The Mysterious" on Jul 12, 2005 6:48:48 GMT -5
You should measure your strength, no point in doing anything when you see defeat before the battle has even started.
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Post by Trina on Jul 12, 2005 8:15:00 GMT -5
Jen wasn't actually saying we should go over and bomb them she meant kill the terrorists rather than lock them up coz one day they will be set free and just do it again!!
I completely agree that violence is never the answer I am completely against the war but I also don't believe going up and talking to these people is the answer either! There is no way that people who strap bombs to themselves, go onto a rush hour train and blow themselves and others to bits, who then wait for the survivors to get onto a bus and do the same there are going to go oh I see your point of view now I have been a bit silly haven't i! I have no idea what the soloution is but I ever caught one I would absolutely destroy them!
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Post by Tiger Taylor on Jul 12, 2005 8:34:42 GMT -5
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Post by Brigitte on Jul 12, 2005 10:16:16 GMT -5
What I mean is that retaliation is the wrong way of solving the problem. What needs to happen is for someone somwhere to take the wind out of the terrorists' sail, they can only succeed if we let them. Fighting back only antagonises them further and it will enable them to recruit more people. By reacting in a non-violent way you have the chance of beating them. Reaction and counter -reaction, or cause and effect, look at what happened in Northern Ireland. ( the history of it) the papers are also full of examples of how not to respond, try the Independent on Monday for example I totally agree with you on that way. Fighting back with the same means just proves them right. So instead we should go ahead and show them that their way of "solving things" will have no effect on us. At least I think this is what you mean. If not I am sorry. But the truth is that most people are killed out of religious reasons. So I agree with Roger on that one: "Religion tends to fuck people up!" |
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Post by Jmochampion on Jul 12, 2005 14:50:39 GMT -5
What I mean is that retaliation is the wrong way of solving the problem. What needs to happen is for someone somwhere to take the wind out of the terrorists' sail, they can only succeed if we let them. Fighting back only antagonises them further and it will enable them to recruit more people. By reacting in a non-violent way you have the chance of beating them. Reaction and counter -reaction, or cause and effect, look at what happened in Northern Ireland. ( the history of it) the papers are also full of examples of how not to respond, try the Independent on Monday for example I actually agree with this  I can see your point of view!! |
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