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Post by jazz "The Mysterious" on Jul 5, 2005 9:19:54 GMT -5
What do you think he believes in? I suppose he is not a strange believer in all sort of things,  like chaos for example? I can't wait to read it.  |
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Post by alison on Jul 5, 2005 10:08:30 GMT -5
That's an interesting question. He believes in all sorts of great things. I'll make a list in the next day or two.  |
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Post by fotograffa on Jul 6, 2005 15:38:40 GMT -5
Do you mean religiously? In one video he says he doesn't believe in religion and that it tends to "f#&k" people up..the others laughed. Keep in mind that not believing ina particular God doesn't make someone a bad person. Some people believe in Earth based religions or other things and they're as good as any one else. We can't judge someone else on their religious beliefs. That's how people go burned at the stake.
Sharon
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Post by alison on Jul 6, 2005 15:40:10 GMT -5
How about this - maybe just a start?
1. The Almighty
2. Heaven
3. Life in outer space
4. Love
5. Friendship
6. Self-belief
7. Sincerity
8. Oneness of humanity
9. Team work
10. Peace
11. Having fun
12. Human dignity
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Post by alison on Jul 6, 2005 15:42:20 GMT -5
Do you mean religiously? In one video he says he doesn't believe in religion and that it tends to "f#&k" people up..the others laughed. Keep in mind that not believing ina particular God doesn't make someone a bad person. Some people believe in Earth based religions or other things and they're as good as any one else. We can't judge someone else on their religious beliefs. That's how people go burned at the stake. Sharon That was in the mid-eighties. I think his meaning had more to do with dogma. His lyrics have been telling a different story since then. |
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Post by jazz "The Mysterious" on Jul 7, 2005 3:41:10 GMT -5
Do you mean religiously? In one video he says he doesn't believe in religion and that it tends to "f#&k" people up..the others laughed. Keep in mind that not believing ina particular God doesn't make someone a bad person. Some people believe in Earth based religions or other things and they're as good as any one else. We can't judge someone else on their religious beliefs. That's how people go burned at the stake. Sharon That was in the mid-eighties. I think his meaning had more to do with dogma. His lyrics have been telling a different story since then. Do you mean they have become more spiritual? |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 7, 2005 7:35:08 GMT -5
We've all heard the quote about "religion tends to f*** people up" but keep in mind that just because someone is against organized religion doesn't necessarily mean that one is an Atheist. There's still lots of room for spirituality, agnosticism, deism, etc. And as fotograffa said, not beleiving in a particular god doesn't mean that someone is a "bad" person.
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Post by jazz "The Mysterious" on Jul 7, 2005 8:01:47 GMT -5
Of course it doesn't. I don't even know what I believe in anymore and I am a very nice person but I have the feeling that we are ruled by some kind of intelligence.
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Post by fotograffa on Jul 7, 2005 10:37:50 GMT -5
In every human being there is the ability to be very good or very bad...it doesn't much depend on their religious beliefs. Accept people on a one to one basis and certainly not on their religious beliefs. Being a Pagan doesn't make anyone less worthy than anyone else. Personally, I think Roger's comment on that tape made a lot of sense....but don't hate me because of it. Being a Pagan only means I'm not Chrisian, Jewish or Muslin. I am a very Spiritual person and maybe just follow a different path than some of you.
Just an added note...I hope none of you had family or friends hurt by the terrorist attacks in London today. What scary world we live in!!
Stay safe everyone...
Sharon
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Post by alison on Jul 7, 2005 12:15:16 GMT -5
That was in the mid-eighties. I think his meaning had more to do with dogma. His lyrics have been telling a different story since then. Do you mean they have become more spiritual? I would say so, yes, but also more strident. The latter applies especially to the later solo material. He's moved on from writing about everyday things, although some of those early songs had great messages too. The Loser in the End, for example, Tenement Funster and Drowse, if you look into them. I quote the 19th century American philosoper Ralph Waldo Emerson, whom I've come to admire: 'I see that sensible men and conscientious men all over the world were of one religion'. More of his quotes at www.now-im-here.com/emerson.htm |
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Post by jazz "The Mysterious" on Jul 9, 2005 2:15:37 GMT -5
Does he believe in reencarnation? I know that lots of stars do. |
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Post by Ellie79 the threads'girl on Jul 9, 2005 3:42:08 GMT -5
We've all heard the quote about "religion tends to f*** people up" but keep in mind that just because someone is against organized religion doesn't necessarily mean that one is an Atheist. There's still lots of room for spirituality, agnosticism, deism, etc. And as fotograffa said, not beleiving in a particular god doesn't mean that someone is a "bad" person. :)These days there's nothing better than that quote...Honestly I do believe in God and I'm Catholic,I've some friends who chose to become a Sister or a Priest,but what people can do in the name of their religion is really bad....I wrote in the other thread that some fanatics people from Arabian countries made a party when London exploded...I find it jusu horrible... 
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Post by jazz "The Mysterious" on Jul 9, 2005 3:48:07 GMT -5
Terrible indeed!
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Post by alison on Jul 9, 2005 4:28:07 GMT -5
We've all heard the quote about "religion tends to f*** people up" but keep in mind that just because someone is against organized religion doesn't necessarily mean that one is an Atheist. There's still lots of room for spirituality, agnosticism, deism, etc. And as fotograffa said, not beleiving in a particular god doesn't mean that someone is a "bad" person. :)These days there's nothing better than that quote...Honestly I do believe in God and I'm Catholic,I've some friends who chose to become a Sister or a Priest,but what people can do in the name of their religion is really bad....I wrote in the other thread that some fanatics people from Arabian countries made a party when London exploded...I find it jusu horrible... We have a lot of Muslims in the UK and the majority are as appalled as we are. There is something about this in my Queenzone blog, today's entry; somedayoneday.queenzone.com/blog_view.aspx?Q=444 |
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Post by alison on Jul 9, 2005 4:29:42 GMT -5
Does he believe in reencarnation? I know that lots of stars do. I doubt it somehow - but Brian might do, I think. |
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like chaos for example?
